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Four The Win

Four The WinThere are laying systems in abundance these days. Some are good, some not so good, but every now and again you come across one that turns out to be absolutely exceptional and that’s exactly what happened to us this month.

When I first discovered Four The Win I was instantly impressed with both the simplicity of the system and the fact that it concentrates on hot favourites whose average odds are just 1/1. On top of that it takes just 10 minutes a day to find the selections, so straight away I could see we had an easily operated, potentially profitable, system on our hands.

This is what I had to say about it prior to starting our test:

I’m a big fan of the old ”Keep It Simple Stupid” adage when it comes to horse racing systems, because if a system has too many rules it’s almost certainly been backfitted and if this is the case, it’s highly unlikely that what happened in the past will continue to prove profitable in the future.

That’s a cold hard fact I’m afraid, so if you ever purchase a system and find that it’s practically unworkable in practice because of the number of rules involved, do yourself a favour and treat it with extreme caution. In the vast majority of cases it will save you time, effort and expense.

Someone who agrees with me on this is Joe from Four The Win.

Joe’s created a horse racing laying system that’s based on solid form-based principles, that’s simple in the extreme and that targets runners at the bottom end of the odds range, so unlike many of the laying systems I see nowadays, the odd winner here or there is never going to wipe out your betting bank. It’s a very selective system that quite simply highlights runners with a weak profile in races that are competitive enough to warrant taking them on.

This is exactly how bookmakers operate and if it’s your goal to succeed as a betting exchange layer, you could do worse than follow the time-proven principles of traditional bookmaking.

Joe’s system comes packaged in a short, well-written, 16 page ebook that explains everything you need to know clearly and concisely. You’ll know exactly what your selections are likely to be the evening before racing and the rules of the system are all very straightforward.

I’ll be testing Four The Win for the next month with a £1000 starting bank and I’ll be aiming to win £25 on each bet, using a non-aggressive version of the Fibonacci staking plan (as is advised in the book) to recoup losses from winning bets.

We then tested Four The Win for the full month of March (you can check the full results here) and to say we were impressed with what happened would be an understatement!

This is what Craig said when he wrote his final review:

Well, we’ve come to the end of the road for our months test of Four The Win and it’s been a fascinating month. When I first saw the system I was a little sceptical. There are only four simple rules to be followed, and although I could see the logic behind the system, I was a little apprehensive that the system would work at the prices we were laying at. Include a loss recovery staking plan and I had visions of money going down the tube - oh how wrong was I???

I have been astounded by the performance of Four The Win, and I do mean absolutely astounded. In the 30 days of testing we made 16 points profit, and when you consider the average odds we were laying at were evens, and that a large amount of selections were actually odds on, that is simply amazing. We returned a 41.5% profit on our bank, which is a huge ROI and again at the odds is, quite simply, outstanding!

Bare in mind that this is a system that will take you ten minutes a day to find your selections and you have what must be one of the most simple, straightforward, yet ultimately rewarding systems I have seen.

It’s no secret that I’m a big fan of laying, and some of the systems I’ve used in the past have had good success laying at the higher end of the odds market, but at that end you will be laying over the odds and a winner can cause a bit of a dent in your profits, but with Four The Win the odds are almost always within a couple of percent of official SP and often will beat SP because its all hot, hot favourites we’re laying.

So, to sum up, Four The Win is a laying system that lays at an average price of evens, uses a sensible loss recovery plan (which only twice did we go as far as the 3rd bet), has a strike rate in the region of 70% (meaning it will profit at level stakes) and is incredibly easy to operate. Add in the fact that Joe has provided us with excellent customer service, offers a tipping email service, and was only too willing to answer any of our queries and I have no choice but to give Four The Win….

…..FIVE OUT OF FIVE!

Now, some of you might look at the 16 points profit we generated and not be overly impressed with that, but in terms of return on investment this has exceeded everything we’ve ever reviewed on here multiple times over. Keep in mind that many laying systems target runners at 5/1, 6/1, or even 8/1, so your liabilities are 5x, 6x, or 8x higher than with Four The Win. This means that if you were operating on a liability basis you could effectively use 5x, 6x, or 8x larger stakes and when you look at it that way, the returns from this system are absolutely HUGE!

I can honestly say that I haven’t come across anything as appealing as this before. It pinpoints short priced favourites who lose with amazing accuracy and takes just 10 minutes a day to find them, so if you’ve been searching for something that’s extremely easy to operate, profitable in the extreme, and that won’t have you quaking in your boots every time one of your lay bets goes and wins, then look no further than Four The Win.

This one is the business - I love it!

Until next time,
Paul
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Published on April 8, 2008

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  1. Joe on April 8th, 2008 11:58 pm

    Hi Andrew,

    What you can do in that situation where you work and there is more than 1 selection per day is to put the first selection on using the staking plan, so either 1 to 5 points after the last bet and then for the rest of the selections level stake.

    That partly overcomes the problem though I appreciate is not ideal…

  2. Paul on April 8th, 2008 11:54 pm

    Yeah, I see what you mean Andrew. I said above that you could just leave the bets on Betfair early and wait to see if they were matched, but like you say that doesn’t take into account the staking plan.

    You could use something like Grey Horse Bot to “roughly” follow the same staking plan, or when there is multiple selections in one day you could phone in a bet if you get the chance. Betfair have reduced their phone service minimum bet level from £50 a bet to £2 a bet now, so it’s more reasonable than it was before. There isn’t often more than two selections in one day either though, often just the one.

  3. Andrew on April 8th, 2008 11:35 pm

    Great review Craig&Paul,and results to match!!

    One minor problem I can see here though when using the staking plan with the system is that results will have to be monitored after each selection on the day(if there is more than 1 selection),in case stakes have to be increased after a loser.As I am at work during the day and away from the computer I would be unable to do this so can you suggest any other possibilities?I see on the website that level stakes also produce a profit,but nowhere near what the staking plan produces,so not really ideal.Apart from that a great little system,though 3 losers in a row would dent the bank somewhat.

  4. Jono on April 8th, 2008 6:10 pm

    Great thanks Craig! :)

  5. Craig on April 8th, 2008 5:38 pm

    Exactly right Jono, you put the bet in at the odds you want and if the price doesn’t come that low then the bet will be cancelled at the off and the money stuck back in your account.

  6. Jono on April 8th, 2008 4:58 pm

    Thanks Craig…I never knew this.

    If I put the odds, for example, 2.10 odds. If the odds match to 2.10 then it will automatically bet for me. If it is not match then the bet will off itself and not lose money?

    Is this correct? Just clarify for myself buddy :)

    Jono

  7. Craig on April 8th, 2008 4:55 pm

    Jono,

    Just put in whatever odds you are willing to offer for the bet and that’s it. If not matched straight away Betfair keeps your bet active right up until the off. You can even chose to keep it in play as well.

  8. Jono on April 8th, 2008 4:51 pm

    Hi Craig,

    Really? How can I do that in Betfair? Show me where is it…

    Thanks,

    Jono

  9. Craig on April 8th, 2008 4:47 pm

    Jono,

    You can place your order in Betfair for whatever odds you want and then just leave them, if they get matched then great and if not, then that’s fine too.

  10. Jono on April 8th, 2008 4:43 pm

    Yes Paul……Some day it is more than 2.3. That was why I cant monitor them during the day.

    So the main reason that I can bet in the evening when I get his ebook. :)

    Jono

  11. Paul on April 8th, 2008 3:56 pm

    You shouldn’t need to monitor the odds if you don’t have time Jono - just fire a bet in on Betfair and if it’s matched you’re cool :)

  12. Jono on April 8th, 2008 3:52 pm

    I agree with you, Paul! Joe from Four the win is simple the best! I have made some profits from him. Also the support is top class!

    I have unsubscribe his email service because I dont have time to do in the day time when I wait for the odds drop down BUT I am going to buy his ebook soon.

    Everything is great with Four the win so far! :)

    Jono

  13. Paul on April 8th, 2008 3:42 pm

    @ Jools - well done!

    @ James - it isn’t market based so you can still operate it if you work during the day or whatever.

  14. James T. on April 8th, 2008 3:29 pm

    I have a question about Four The Win. When do I need to check the odds before I can place a bet? Could I do it anytime during the day or is it one of these market based systems?

    Thanks in advance.

  15. Jools on April 8th, 2008 2:52 pm

    Happy days! I bought the Four The Win after I got your email at 12.30pm. I checked for bets and found two in 15 minutes, I’ll get faster in time! I layed the first one at 1.75 to win £50 and it got beat!

    The system is paid for on the first bet!!!

    8/11 SP beat!!

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