You Can’t Lose @ UCantLose
Ever wanted to place a bet and know with absolute certainty that no matter what the outcome, you are going to walk away with a profit? Did you know that it’s even possible to do such a thing? Well, it is and it’s called arbitrage, or arbing for short. The definition of an arb is taking advantage of price differentials between two or more markets. In betting terms, this occurs when bookies have different opinions of the likely outcome of a particular event.
Take football as an example, there are only three possible outcomes of a match; a home win, an away win or a draw. For an arb to be possible there would need to be a difference of odds that would allow for a profit no matter what the outcome. You won’t find this in one bookie, or even one betting exchange as then the bookie or exchange traders would be guaranteeing themselves a loss, so it means shopping around - and I don’t mean with just one or two bookies - I mean shopping around with pretty much every single bookmaker you can find!
This is, undoubtedly, the biggest factor why arbing hasn’t exploded. It really is a lot of work and the returns can be disappointing. Imagine searching for hours before finding an arb and even then only getting back a 1% ROI, not exactly ‘a juicy worm of a rate’ to quote a certain advert.
By now, you may be ready to slit your wrists, but put the razor to one side for a minute and bear with me because I’m about to show you exactly how you can profit (and profit big!) from arbing.
For a few years now I’ve been using a service known as UCantLose. This is possibly the best arbing service available. Basically, they’ll do all the work for you searching the bookies sites for these little odds discrepancies and sending them straight on to you. The only ‘work’ you have to do is go to the bookies they tell you to visit and place the bets. They even provide you with a free calculator to work out exactly how much to place on each outcome to get your guaranteed profit.
You might still be thinking about that 1% profit I mentioned earlier… well stop right there! I admit to having no idea how they manage this but, for example, the first arb they advised this year returned a 15.46% profit - guaranteed! The lowest guaranteed return throughout January was 1.09%, but the highest was… wait for this…. 40.61% guaranteed profit! Admittedly, this was a pretty spectacular arb and not one you will get every day, but it shows you that it can be done.
Not only will UCantLose unearth these little gems for you, they also guarantee to provide you with at least 50 arbs a month or they’ll refund your fee, and most months you’ll have far more than the 50 they guarantee to send you, I can promise you that!
But what if you don’t want to be stuck sitting at your PC all day waiting for these arbs to hit your inbox? Well, they’ve taken care of that too! For no extra cost, they will text every single arb bet to your phone as well, so you never have to worry about missing out.
All in all, this is a cracking little service and an absolute credit to the guys who run it, so if you fancy getting into the world of guaranteed profit you should pay a visit to UCantLose!
Until next time,
Online Betting Exposed
Many thanks Craig, very much appreciated.
@Kay
1. I’m still using ucantlose but not as frequently as I’d like due to the time I spend on the site and running the system trials but they are still delivering the goods, yes
2. It happens occasionally, but not too often if you’re quick. If it does, I place both parts anyway and take the small loss rather than the losing the whole stake.
3. I’m really not sure if the calculator would work on a PDA or Smartphone as I’ve never tried, sorry.
4. To be fair, you need a hell of a lot of bookie accounts open. Yes, it’s a pain but it’s what makes ucantlose work so well.
5. I’ve never had any problems with the accounts as you’re never winning from the same account constantly.
Hope that helps
@Craig. If you do not mind, could you answer the following please.
1. Are you still using UcantLose and is it still delivering the goods?
2. Have you ever experienced placing the first part of the arb bet, only to find out the odds of the second or subsequent bets have now gone against you, and what do you do when this happens.
3. The calculator provided by UcantLose for calculating stake, can this be used on a smartphone/PDA when you are out and about to calculate the required stakes so as to be able to place the bets by phoning the relevant bookie when no access to a PC?
4. I emailed UCantLose regarding the suggested minimum number of bookies to use, and I got a reply suggesting about 46 bookies! Do you actually use 46 bookies?
5. Have you had any of your accounts closed/restricted while using this service?
Thanks. K
Hello people. It’s been quiet on this section. Is this service - UCantLose - still delivering the goods?
How many bookies minimum would I need to register with to be able to operate this profitably? Also, which ones from people’s experience tend to come up with the arbs?
Thanks.
Bookmakers like ppl to lose money. If you keep wining on them, they will limit you. Or they suspect you are an arber, they will limit you also. i think this is the reason WHY they limit you.
=)
Wil, i opened with 15 bookmakers last time. Then, i close them ONE by ONE due to the limit of stakes per bet by the bookmakers. ?
thanks for quick replys and i am absolute beginner to any kind of betting besides a straight win or even working winnings out , but could you tell me about limits the bookies set and why they set them, thanks
Wil, i opened with 15 bookmakers last time. Then, i close them ONE by ONE due to the limit of stakes per bet by the bookmakers. So, just left 7 reputable bookmakers. Well, if you got large capital bank, you can open more, if you got small capital bank, just stick with 7 and 8 when you start… Besides, you also need a reserve bank, in case one of the bookmaker $ drain out, you could fund it immediately.
Wil, you should contact the guys at UCantLose about that as they’ll be able to give you an accurate idea of how many accounts you would need to make the most of it.
how many accounts with different bookies would i actually need to open to be ready for the tips you would send, thanks
Well, that’s not truth about it… I’m an arber for 1 and half years.
i had stopped to arb because MOST OF THE BOOKMAKERS limit you.
It’s wrong that Ucan’tLose said You could earn 9710 for March…
Let’s say for every ARB it deliever to you, sometimes it’s false arb or the price has shorten. Therefore there is no ARB occur. In addition, if you keep winning on one of the Bookmaker, they will limit you… let say 10EUR per match ? or maximum to 50EUR only. which is hard to earn.
Just my 2 cents as an arber. =)
Hi Craig,
Well this service loks great but you will have to open an ac with so many bookies, i mean i know that it is free to open an ac with the bookies but with some of the bookies, lines move very fast i mean buy the time u place the bet u might not get the same odd. Some of the bookies even charge to withdraw money as well. I mean if you betting bank is big then it is good service but not for the people who wants to make little money out of the gambling.
Thanks,
Harry
I’ve just received an email fron UCanLose explaining that if you had £1000 at the start of March it would have grown to £9710 by the end of the month. I assume they meant if I had a subscription with them and managed to bet on every arb they ever sent - YEAH RIGHT !
They also say the membership numbers are limited - who are they trying to kid !!!!!!!
If you could react within fractions of seconds to all the alerts they send, I still doubt you would ever reach the £9710 figure they quote. Dont forget this is the theoretical figure, the practice is waaaay different !
Oh, and Calvin, have you actually made a profit on anything yet ?
i have been using ucantlose for just over a wk and whilst it is difficult to place the bets u will actually improve over time. I find the trick is actually finding the actual market within a site. if the bet is too be placed with a site u are very familiar with then u should easily be able to place a few arbs each month for a very good roi. yesterday they sent out a darts arb for 11.24% and that was available for at least 15 mins!!
Hi Andy,
I know a couple of people who have tried Zero Risk Arbitrage and they didn’t think much of it. That was a while ago mind you.
If you feel arbing is what would suit you best then don’t be put off by my comments. Like I say, I know people who do it very successfully, but it just doesn’t suit me personally. You could always try Ucantlose for a month and see what you think. If you picked up one decent arb during this time it would pay for itself and it would give you a good idea of whether it was something you wanted to pursue or not. That would be the best move I think.
~ Paul
Oh, by the way, there is another arb service provider that uses different software to find arbs. This means the arbs stand for longer before the punters follow them in numbers forcing the prices down. The service is Zero Risk Aritrage. Perhaps this site could review the service?
Thanks for the input guys. After returning from holiday I have resumed my research and have had a response from ucan’tlose. Despite their reassurances, I am a little concerned by the comments made by Paul and it seems that arbs are not as straightforward as I initially thought. Combined with needing huge amounts of cash spread across bookies and the delays in getting your money out or in, could make this a bit hit and miss. Ucan’tlose use 4 credit cards and each one at different times to get their bets on. I will have a look at the VHF and see what I think. I like the idea of having a quick turnaround.
Thanks for your reply and comments Paul.
Looking at the stats, the past month of Feb delivered 13 arbs of over 5%, some of those were long term arbs and some with more than 2 outcomes. I would only try to place bets on those arbs with greater than 4% and with 2 outcomes. I must admit, that for a lower margin, then the arbs were active immediately after receiving the alert, but after about 15 or 20 mins the odds changed.
If you have the time, and are prepared to sit at a PC for several hours a day to catch the arbs and are lucky enough to get the bet on before most people, then I agree, it can be profitable. But if you are in a full time job, then it just becomes unfeasable to allocate so much time to this.
I have had much more luck with spread betting which I have done for several years, but that’s another discussion entirely !
I’ll certainly check out your recommendation and shall report back.
Regards
Paul
Hi Paul,
I’m not completely disagreeing with you, because you’ve obviously spent time on this kind of arbing and I haven’t, but I know Craig uses this service and my father does too, so I’ve got a decent enough knowledge of how it works and what to expect.
I agree with you wholeheartedly that arbing is hard work and fairly time-consuming, but some of what you say doesn’t match up to what my father and others have experienced with regards to the quality of the arbs. I know for a fact that my father would never bother with arbs that only returned 0.2% - in fact his bottom limit is 5% and he regularly catches arbs that pay as much as 20%, so he’s been picking up £100, £200, even more, at a time. And he gets a lot of these too.
I don’t think it’s easy money at all, far from it, but if you’ve got the time and money to do it then making a few hundred a month - probably much more - isn’t being unrealistic. This is what I know to be true from someone who has been arbing for longer than I can remember and who now uses Ucantlose and one other company to source the arbs.
I’ve said in other places on this site that traditional arbing really isn’t for me. For one, I don’t have the time or the money to spread around between sites, but there are other much more profitable ways to find dozens of minimum risk, often risk-free, trades every day.
Take a look at this software….
The Value Horse Finder
This is what I use myself and in my opinion it’s a hell of a lot more profitable.
It depends on what suits you I suppose. I like to get in and get out fast when I’m trading, so this suits me perfectly.
~ Paul
Think about it.
If it was that good, then why would any of us work for a living?
I was sceptical, but I thought I would give it a try.
Sure, they will send you 50 arbs a month, but to get started you need to open accounts with 30 or 40 preferably more betting websites. Then you have to open accounts with money transfer websites (Ebookers, Paypal etc) because most bank accounts and credit cards wont let you place bets, or if they do, charge you interest from the moment you transfer the cash !
Then you have to fund the accounts so that the cash is ready the instant you need to place a bet, so count on having at least £3k spread around your money transfer accounts. And of course have all your usernames and passwords at the ready. Money transfer accounts are generally very secure, therefore your login procedure can be lengthy.
Once you start getting the arbs, the reality hits you.
Try to place a bet with the arb you have just been sent - you find the odds have changed, rendering the arb obsolete, at best, instead of the 2 or 3 % guaranteed, the return will be 0.2% or even worse. You are only working on very small percentages therefore on a 2% arb you have to layout £1000 to win £20, and in practice, to extract your winnings takes days.
I tried this for 4 months, and since I sit in front of a PC for 6 hours a day for my job, I thought I would be well placed to grab the arbs as soon as they came in. And sure enough, I was reacting in seconds to the arb and trying to place bets, only to find that in almost all cases, the odds had changed or the bet had dissapeared. Admittedly, I was only using the arbs which had 2 or 3 outcomes (tennis, football, boxing etc), any more variables would have taken too long to get the bet on ! Dont forget, you need to have enough screens to display the betting websites you are using at the time, so you can place the bet with all of them in an instant, making sure none of the odds have changed. In practice you need 2 screens, preferably 3. And good eyesight and concentration.
In the period I used their service, I can honestly say I made absolutely nothing, and wasted an extraordinary amount of my time.
I am now in the process of extracting my £5k from the various betting websites and money transfer sites.
Dont do it. Dont believe the grossly exagerated claims from some of the people here. There are no (legal) foolproof ways of making easy money.
I wouldn’t have any reason to dispute what they claim either. It was my own personal circumstances that meant I couldn’t use it to full effect but don’t take that as a negative. What the previous posters have said is true that if you have the time and money you can do well.